the lgbt community is very, very afraid of discussions about misogyny, which i think is partially due to r/dical feminism and the fear of coming across as “terfy”. the thing is, if we can’t have productive discussions about misogyny, we can’t effectively talk about things like transmisogyny (the intersection between transphobia and misogyny) and lesbiphobia (the intersection between homophobia and misogyny). if you don’t have a proper understanding of misogyny and how it manifests within the community as well as outside of it, you will never understand either of those topics, and you will never be a good ally to either group.
It is also worth talking about misogyny for its own sake.
^ And being afraid to say it's relevant and important to talk about misogyny as a form of oppression in and of itself for its own sake (rather than "because some queer people are women!") is part of the current problem. It feels akin to attempts at appealing to sexist men by saying "Well haven't you got a wife/daughter/isn't someone you care about a woman?" rather than just... starting from "Misogyny would still be worth talking about even if it wasn't an "in group" issue, which it absolutely is too," because I *have* seen some queer people justify their overt misogyny or apathy towards the oppression of women by saying "Well I meant cis/straight/cishet women, it's not my job to care about them/I'm entitled to hate them" and. No.
Cishet women also need queer people as allies in the fight against misogyny. They are also oppressed by misogyny itself.
The most privileged woman is still a woman.
At some point we’re also going to need to talk about the fact that queer men are still men. “But we’re oppressed for being queer!” yes, that is how intersectionality works, thanks for playing.
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